Jobs without college?

hey, my name is mark and im in 9th grade. i am failing school(like 5 f's and 2 c's) and i hate school beacuse i feel that i am learning things that i will not use in life, such as math. alot of jobs do not require math. anyway, i was wondering what i should do i want a job that pays 50-60 thousand a year i know that might be high but anyway, does anyone know the average salary for some jobs or maybe where you work if oyu didnt go to college. its not that i dont want to go to college, just that i know that i cant because i dont have the motivation. and please, no bullshit answers like (go to college or you'll be ****** dont decide not to go you'll regret it) because i might go later in life

Jobs without college?
well I don't know of any jobs that pay about 50-60 thousand without college but you could ask around other places like construction companies or Iron workers they still might require a high school diploma or a college degree. but there is not much room for advancement without a college degree and if you don't want to go to college that is fine as well i guess. but to answer you question where you would use math in life is in school that you are going to that is part of life as well don't forget. your every decision is a domino and one will effect all the other one its called the domino effect they talk about it in government classes and economics classes. so just concentrate on school i know high school is an environment made from boredom just get involved in sports time will pass by a little faster and who know you might decide to go to college after all. also just concentrate on learning the material don't worry about why or when you'll use it cause who knows when you need to know then area of a triangle or what the value of x is if its equal to 5y and y is equal to 2.
Reply:No way will you be making 50-60 thousand dollars a year with no education after high school. NO WAY, period, unless your family has some good connections.





You don't have to go to a 4 year college, but you NEED some sort of skill or education after high school. Get used to it. Start looking into trade schools.
Reply:Given that you are only in 9th grade, it is a little early to decide what you can't do, but assuming you end up not going to college, there are some jobs out there you might consider, even if most of them need some training. Long distance truck drivers seem to make decent money, as do prison guards, and you don't have to go to college to do either. Auto mechanics are always in demand, and plumbers and electricians can do pretty well. While it is true that life is easier for those who go to college and most of them end up earning more than those who don't, there are professions for those who do not go to college. You just have to be purposeful about it, rather than drifting from meaningless job to job.
Reply:there are some 50K jobs but they aren't alwasy easy to find





Mostly it's 18K jobs unless you learn a skill.





How will you know if you are being cheated when they give you a 7% raise if you don't know your math?
Reply:check out the police academy. You get paid a decent amount and I believe you get insurance coverage.
Reply:Hi Mark, we all are put through things in school we think there may be no need for. Because you are taking algebra, it doesn't mean you'll end up sitting at a desk all day crunching numbers. The problem-solving skills you will learn in algebra will be helpful in geometry, which in turn will be helpful in calculus. It doesn't mean you'll be an accountant. The process provides you with the building blocks you need to get to the next level. Or, in the process you may discover you do like numbers and are good at it. Or you will know for sure you don't like it. If you don't think your high schools grades are good enough for a 4-year university, you can attend a community college after graduation and then go on to a 4-year university, or go to a trade or technical school. Next year, you should be meeting with your high school guidance counselor who can help you plan your next steps. The bottom line is there is a lot of competition out there within the university system and businesses are going to give the highest-paying jobs to those individuals who have the best grades and education. College isn't for everyone, but that doesn't mean you should give up on your studies. Please do the best you can now. Education at any level is a gift. Making the most of it will only benefit you in the long run.





Good luck.
Reply:I know a few people with Masters Degrees that barely make $50 thousand a year. And I no high school drop outs that make $500 thousand +. But no matter what you do, you need an education. You say you don't need math. In almost job I have had, i needed math. Maybe not calculus, but math. Algrebra comes in handy. Alot of things you will never use, but alot of them you will.





But frankly, if you have no motivation, you won't have much of a work ethic. Not to be rude, but you will lucky to keep a job flipping burgers unless you learn to do things we don't want to do because it's our job. Right now, school is your job. And you need to put your focus into it. You sound fairly intelligent, just lazy because you don't want to do it. That will be an even bigger problem then no college.
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Reply:Hey, Mark. You and I are in the same boat. I'm 19 and just graduated high school in May as the valedictorian with a 3.93 unweighted GPA. I was also awarded a 75% Bright Futures Scholarship. So, I know that I'm sufficiently intelligent to get through college, and I've been attending a community college in my town for two semesters and a summer term so far, but it just doesn't seem like the path I should take. Right now, my major is set to business administration. I signed up for five classes this semester, four of which were completely online. Long story short, I ended up withdrawing from all four online classes and the teacher of my in-class course called me this afternoon and said that she withdrew me before I failed (very kind teacher). I just don't seem to be interested in any of the courses. I know it's not true, but I feel like I'm being pressured to go to college and do well because I did so well in grade school. College to me seems like a waste of time and money, especially when I've already paid well over $700 out of pocket for books, not including the gas it takes to get to school (it takes a good 25 minutes one way, and I drive an older Ford pickup). I would much rather learn a skill that I can use (such as welding, carpentry, fabrication, auto repair, etc.) since I know for a fact that I want to have my own automotive customization shop in the future. However, I don't want to just throw my scholarship away, but I'm likely to lose it anyway because of poor grades.


So, trust me, I know how you feel. It's hard to know since we can't see into the future. I know Bill Gates never went to college, and look where he ended up. Then again, Gates' situation is a one-in-a-million kind of opportunity. Not everyone can have a career like that. I've been researching what a person can do without a college degree, but I don't have in-depth information yet. I've always thought that, with God's help, a person can be successful without college, but skipping college, and even going later in life has it's own hardships. Either path a person chooses is going to be difficult, you just have to pick your choice and work at it diligently.


You seem to me like an intelligent person (at least you know how to spell; most people don't). I know that if you work hard, you will succeed. However, don't confuse the word "success" with the phrase "worry free." Either path, college or not, will be difficult. Just choose your path, hit the road, and run.


If I find more information, I'll post it up. Just know someone who has been where you are is having to make the same decision a few years down the road.